Dialga Garchomp Deck Workshop

by Ed ~ January 26th, 2010.

Here’s a deck that I think will fare quite well when the HGSS set comes out. Omar has run a similar “Lady Gaga” Deck, but I can’t condone such behavior (because of the name). Let’s just focus on the Dialga Garchomp Deck for now. We will start with the following deck that Omar has built and tested, which he posted about before.

Pokemon: 19
3 Luxray GL
1 Luxray GL Lv. X
2 Garchomp C
1 Garchomp C Lv. X
2 Bronzong G
1 Dialga G
1 Dialga G Lv. X
2 Uxie
1 Uxie Lv. X
1 Toxicroak G (Promo)
1 Lucario G
1 Crobat G
1 Unown G
1 Azelf

Trainers/Supporters: 29
4 Cyrus’s Conspiracy
4 Roseanne’s Research
4 Energy Gain
4 Poke Turn
4 Power Spray
3 SP Radar
2 Night Maintenance
1 Aaron’s Collection
1 Bebe’s Search
1 Luxury Ball
1 Expert Belt

Energy: 13
4 Call Energy
4 Electric
2 Psychic
2 Warp Energy
1 Metal

The thing is that this is a fairly known deck by now. There isn’t a whole lot to say about it. Luxray can Bright Look up an opposing Pokemon and pretty much own it in one shot with either Trash Bolt or Flash Impact. Garchomp C Lv. X heals your SPs while adding an 80 damage Dragon Rush snipe attack. Dialga is a bit more situational and defensive shutting down trainers with its Deafen attack while also shutting down Poke-Bodies with its own Time Crystal Poke-Body. This all adds up to another potent SP deck. Have you noticed a theme yet? Take Luxray GL Lv. X. Mix it with some other SP Pokemon. Win.

If you want to keep winning, though, you’ll have to adapt for the changing environment. Heart Gold / Soul Silver is coming out, and it’s bringing some new cards into the format. How can we build a winning HGSS Dialga Garchomp Deck? Well, the easy answer is to take out 4 cards, add in 4 Double-Colorless Energy (or DCE), and then just roll. Are there any other new cards that we ought to consider? Is the metagame going to change enough to warrant a shift in this deck?

Many people believe that the more Dialga-heavy (and I think therefore more controlling) version will be a better choice come DCE time. Dialga and Garchomp both get a nice boost from the Double-Colorless Energy. Dialga G’s Second Strike and the Lv. X’s Remove Lost both have a double colorless component. Remove Lost can even remove your opponent’s DCE. Garchomp C only requires colorless energy, so DCE gives him quite a nice boost. Even Luxray GL’s Bite and Trash Bolt attacks have a double colorless requirement. In most of these cases, the DCE doesn’t really combo with Energy Gain, so it works as more of a replacement for EGain. Garchomp C (and Lv. X), however, can now do an attack that would seem to cost 3 energy by dropping EGain and DCE, so Dragon Rush can do 80 to a benched Pokemon in one quick move. It doesn’t even have to discard 2 energy cards to do it (if you only have a single attached).

Let’s discuss it a bit and see if we can come up with a nice new Dialga Garchomp Decklist for HGSS. Here’s the workshopped version.

Pokemon: 20

2 Garchomp C
2 Garchomp C Lv. X
1 Bronzong G
3 Dialga G
1 Dialga G Lv. X
2 Uxie
1 Uxie Lv. X
1 Toxicroak G (Promo)
1 Lucario G
1 Crobat G
1 Skuntank G
1 Unown G
1 Azelf

Trainers/Supporters: 27

4 Cyrus’s Conspiracy
4 Roseanne’s Research
4 Energy Gain
4 Poke Turn
4 Power Spray
3 SP Radar
1 Night Maintenance
1 Aaron’s Collection
1 Bebe’s Search
1 Luxury Ball

Stadiums: 2

2 Snowpoint Temple

Energy: 11

2 DCE
1 Psychic
3 Metal
3 Special Metal
1 Warp Energy

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  • Well, i have to say that after this deck took over, it got teched against and due to the blaziken tecks, it cannot do much. It has more of a chance if you dont play Luxray in the deck imo. Using the luxray for a dialga line, getting another garchomp C, and snowpoint temple, as well as getting rid of a couple energy for another snowpoint and skuntank G, and switching NM for expert belt.

    For Ed, here is my + –

    -3 Luxray G
    -1 Luxray X
    -1 Night Maintenance
    -4 Call Energy
    -4 Electric

    +2 Dialga G
    +1 Skuntank G
    +1 Garchomp C
    +2 Snowpoint temple
    +4 Special Metal Energy
    +2 Metal Energy
    +1 Expert Belt

    That is what i think will make it more consistent.

  • Well, i have to say that after this deck took over, it got teched against and due to the blaziken tecks, it cannot do much. It has more of a chance if you dont play Luxray in the deck imo. Using the luxray for a dialga line, getting another garchomp C, and snowpoint temple, as well as getting rid of a couple energy for another snowpoint and skuntank G, and switching NM for expert belt.

    For Ed, here is my + –

    -3 Luxray G
    -1 Luxray X
    -1 Night Maintenance
    -4 Call Energy
    -4 Electric

    +2 Dialga G
    +1 Skuntank G
    +1 Garchomp C
    +2 Snowpoint temple
    +4 Special Metal Energy
    +2 Metal Energy
    +1 Expert Belt

    That is what i think will make it more consistent.

  • Ed

    I made your mods, but what about the DCE? We’re talkin’ HGSS. Is there anything else that’ll help?

  • Ed

    I made your mods, but what about the DCE? We’re talkin’ HGSS. Is there anything else that’ll help?

  • you added some things i didnt add….you lost 1 garchomp, added an extra bronzong, didnt add the garchomp C lv. X(i dont know if i was clear enough, but it should be a 2-2 line) which will work out because there are only 59 cards listed above. When DCE come out, the only things that can be sacrificed would be energies.

    so, try something like…
    -1 special metal
    -1 warp
    and add
    +2 DCE

  • you added some things i didnt add….you lost 1 garchomp, added an extra bronzong, didnt add the garchomp C lv. X(i dont know if i was clear enough, but it should be a 2-2 line) which will work out because there are only 59 cards listed above. When DCE come out, the only things that can be sacrificed would be energies.

    so, try something like…
    -1 special metal
    -1 warp
    and add
    +2 DCE

  • i took care of the changes, so no worries on that one. As for other things that can make this deck work, mabye Alakazam 4? move damage off and then mass heal with garchomp.

    I dont know any other techs that can change the playstyle of this nor make this better… :S

  • i took care of the changes, so no worries on that one. As for other things that can make this deck work, mabye Alakazam 4? move damage off and then mass heal with garchomp.

    I dont know any other techs that can change the playstyle of this nor make this better… :S

  • Ed

    Thanks for editing it. I don’t know how I messed it up like that. :) I know that this one ain’t quite as fun as the LuxApe workshop, but I felt like we should get something up to see if people searching for the info will actually read the stuff.

  • Ed

    Thanks for editing it. I don’t know how I messed it up like that. :) I know that this one ain’t quite as fun as the LuxApe workshop, but I felt like we should get something up to see if people searching for the info will actually read the stuff.