Battle Road #2: Vanilla TOSSED Testing

by Ed ~ September 19th, 2010.

After yesterday’s BR, I decided that I ought to try another version of TOSSED for BR #2. I opted for “Vanilla” TOSSED, because I thought it might be easier to play. I want to get an idea of the strength’s of each. I can’t say that I got a great idea of it. I can’t say that I did much at all today. I’m pretty unimpressed with my performance.

Ava, however, won another 2 packs. I think she got 3rd, but she may have been 4th. She actually won only 1 game (and lost 1), because she got a bye. Her first match was winable, but she forgot to lay the ExBelt. Her next match was the bye, and then she got a hard-fought win to claim her 2 packs.

I didn’t fare that well.

Round 1: Ryan W.
Ryan had LuxChomp with Blaziken. All I saw was Luxray. It didn’t make it past my first turn, partially thanks to an Expert Belt and a DCE.
1-0

Round 2: Peter (Senior)
Peter also had LuxChomp. Last night, I made the decision to tech in a Regice for Spiritomb. In this match, I realized my worse Regice fear, starting with it active and being unable to retreat it. Yeah, that sucked, otherwise I think I had a first-turn KO. Peter actually did me a favor by Bright Looking it to the bench, and the game went to sudden death. Each of us were like 10 away from a KO a couple turns in a row. I came real close on my final turn, but I was unable to draw the card I needed for the win.
1-1

Round 3: Nick
Nick had Gengar C. I started my first 2 turns with back-to-back KOs on Gastly and Toxicroak G. Nick actually almost conceded, but decided to play it out. After that, there was one turn when the juniors winners were announced (and my daughter got a prize) where I was fairly distracted. Nick asked me to please play faster, and I think that was the turning point. I started making hasty plays, and by then, I was kinda mentally spent anyway. I can’t say why. I really don’t know how I lost this. I do know that Nick got a couple important KOs, and I had a bad prize, but this should not have meant doom for me. I really think that I just rushed things assuming I had the win. I even got a KO on his Gengar and he flipped tails. I honestly wonder if I forgot to take a prize or something, because I dunno how it went downhill that fast. I think that Nick won on the 3rd turn of +3 (after time was called).
1-2

Round 4: Michael Slutsky
I start lone Unown Q. Michael starts Garchomp C. He wins the toss, he attaches DCE, I get up and leave. The day is over, and I’m a bit relieved to be done.
1-3

What did I learn? TOSSED surprises people. Regice is not a good tech unless you add in a good (more than just SSU) way to get it out of the active spot. Vanilla TOSSED is not easier to play (compared to the other variants) when you play SP all day. I think it can be a good meta choice, but it’s not the right one against this local MN meta right now.

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  • Anonymous

    Wow, rough day, but I guess that’s what battle roads are for – testing decks against other “tournament level” decks that you don’t always see at league meetings.

  • Ed

    Yeah, I can chalk it up to experience, and it’s not a total loss. I haven’t been to league in forever. The closest league is at a shop called Dreamers, and it’s fairly mismanaged. After Omar and Pikk left town, I really didn’t get any practice at all. I played Pikkdogs a bunch just recently, but that wasn’t great prep for BR. I never played against a deck like his here.

  • Anonymous

    SP is all over, you got a find a way to tech T.O.S.S.E.D. against SP like you did against trainer lock.

    Perhaps Mewtwo X can be a good wall to put up. Though you would need dodrio ud for the retreat cost. And that would kind of go against the principal of not putting much on the field.

  • Michael

    Do you understand how to use Mewtwo as a tech?

  • Ed

    He’s not really wrong on the point of TOSSED needing to be able to retreat Mewtwo (assuming it was teched). That still doesn’t mean it would fit well. I believe that I have a favorable matchup against LuxChomp, but DialgaChomp is uphill. That’s where I’d need to focus if I wanted to tech something, and Mewtwo wouldn’t help that matchup much.

  • Taskis

    Nick here, round 3 opponent. Sorry for asking you to play faster, i apologize but i knew that if i could burn through more of my deck i would have a better chance of winning and you were taking awhile. I was in a bad mood but tried not to let it show as i was topping terribly and was being pressured to top cut, but it was a good game and i enjoyed playing with you and overall meeting you. Better luck next time.

    • Ed

      Don’t worry about it, Nick. You were fun to play against, and I don’t mean to sound as if I blame you for asking me to hurry. You are right that I was taking a while, and it’s right of you to voice your concern in that situation. You played it well, so don’t let my excuses take anything away from your win!

      Do you know what happened in the top-4? I honestly have no idea who made cut or what went on to win.

  • Taskis

    Top 2 were Michael and Lukas with mirror match decks. Michael took the win in +3 barely. I dont know third and fourth, as i didnt top cut myself. I believe Ariel must have top cut as we played and he ended up with only 1 loss after beating me. He was playing giratina. By the way i noticed im in the pictures from the sunday battle roads.

    • Ed

      Interesting. Michael didn’t think he’d top cut. Maybe now he won’t have so much pressure to get a Victory Medal, so he can go back to being pleasant.

      I saw you in the Sat pics, too. I added them after the articles were written, though, so I didn’t add any text for them.

      Where do you live, Nick? It sounded like you knew Michael, so I wondered if it was down by him. Do you go to league anywhere? I’m pretty far West.

      • Anonymous

        I live between Michael and Lukas. Roughly dead center, as they only live a few miles apart. I go to Misty Mountain, and Lukas is the one who supplied most of the cards for my deck. Hes the one who got me back into pokemon, as i havent played since i was really little. This was my first and second BR, and even though i didnt top cut i had alot of fun. I havent been playing long though, so im not very good. Couple weeks. Im on this forums to become more knowledgeable in the ways of pokemon, and so far its helping quite a bit. If you dont know the location of misty mountain(its the site of a BR so im assuming you do but just in case) Its in Burnsville and we all live relatively close, with Lukas being closest and Michael the farthest.

        • Ed

          I played at Misty a couple times before. I think I’ll get down there for the next event. You’re doing well for only getting back into it. It’s good to have some guys like Lukas and Michael to help you get a deck together. When I got back in, I played some odd stuff for a while before I got things straightened out. Now, I guess I’ve gone back to the odd stuff, but this odd stuff is better than my old odd stuff.

          • Frozendukie

            Ed do you ever go to locals?

          • Ed

            I used to go to Dreamers a bunch. Then, I stopped when Omar and I were playing every Wed. Since he went to CA, I have only gone to the 2 BR.