Lost World

Lost World Deck HGSS-On- Mew Prime, Mime Jr. and Gengar Prime.

Pikkdogs May 18, 2011 8 Comments

As you can see I got really creative with the name of this deck.

Hello all you OHKOers out there. This is Pikkdogs here with a deck idea for the HGSS-on format. I spent most of last weekend working on some HGSS-on decks. I tried a lot of good decks, one deck that was unexpectedly good was my lost world deck.

Before we talk about the deck, we have to mention that Battle Roads start this weekend! This is the time where you can go and prove that the Md-BW format is pretty terrible. Although most people are not excited about the format, it could be just the time for you to go and steal a Victory Medal. So go and have fun with your Pokemon friends, and hopefully you can pull down a medal.

How the Deck Works

Anyway, lets go back to the deck. Like all Lost World decks, this decks only purpose is to get 6 of your opponent’s Pokemon in the Lost Zone. Unlike the popular Lostgar deck, this deck has no way to grab 6 prizes if needed, but thats not really something you need to do.

The main way you will get Pokemon in the Lost Zone is by using Gengar Prime’s “Hurl Into Darkness” attack. But you will never have an active Gengar Prime, instead, you will throw Gengar Prime into your Lost Zone and then make Mew Prime use “Hurl”. Mew Prime can use any attack of any Pokemon in the Lost Zone thanks to his “Lost Link” Poke-Body”. You put Gengar in the Lost Zone either with Mew Prime or with Relincanth Cl. You will also put your opponent’s Pokemon in the Lost Zone with Mime Jr. Cl.

Mime Jr. is a very useful card in this deck. His attack “Sleepy Lost” sends the top card of your opponent’s deck into the Lost Zone. To make sure you will send a Pokemon to the Lost Zone with this attack, this deck uses Slowking Cl to arrange your opponent’s deck. His Poke-Power “Second Sight” lets you arrange the top 3 card of either of the decks. This power can be used to either help you setup, try to give your opponent a bad draw, or to setup “Sleepy Lost.” When I first made this deck, I thought I would only use Slowking to help with “Sleepy Lost.” But, I soon found out that if you can get Slowking setup before your opponent sets up, you can delay their setup for a long time.

How Do You Setup?

This deck has an abundant amount of good starting Pokemon. This deck runs 4 Mew Prime, 2 Relincanth Cl, and 2 Slowpoke (Rambunctious Party). Either would be decent to start with. Ideally you would want to start with Mew Prime or Relincanth and Gengar Prime in your hand, and you would be able to get Gengar Prime in the Lost Zone on the first turn. If not you should be able to setup with Slowpoke or draw cards with Relincanth.

After you have tried to get Gengar Prime in the Lost Zone, your next job is to setup a Slowking. Hopefully you started with a Pokemon Collector or some Dual Balls. After you use these cards you should have at least 1 Slowpoke, Mew Prime, and Mime Jr. Eventually try to get multiple copies of each card in your hand, and a Mr. Mime. Next, use a Pokemon Communication to snag a Slowking.

Once you got your Slowking, you need to decide which attacker is the best to use. First use Mr. Mime’s “Trick Reveal” to see if the opponent has any Pokemon in their hand. Next use “Second Sight” to see what is at the top of their deck. If you can take 2 Pokemon with Mew, than do it. But if you can only take 1 and you have Pokemon both at the top of the deck and in the hand, then you can choose which one you will want to put in the Lost Zone. Ideally you would want to put the most important one in the Lost Zone, but most of the time any Pokemon will do.

Now that you got your first Pokemon in there just keep on using “Second Sight” and “Sleepy Lost”, as well as Seeker with “Hurl Into Darkness”. You should know within the first few turns if you can win the game. If you can put 2 in the Lost Zone before they can take a prize, you should have an easy win. If they setup as fast as you did, your probably not going to win. This is why an early Slowking is important. If you can use Slowking to slow down the opponent for even a turn than you have a better chance at winning.

Matchups

Of course a deck is only as good as its matchups, so lets see if this format will be kind to this deck.

Reshiboar–70/30 Reshiboar is probably the best deck in the format, but it has a hard time attacking if you can limit the amount of energy it receives. Because Reshiram requires a discard, if you can use “Second Sight” to keep the Fishermen and energy out of their hands, you should be faster than them. Good players will probably try to attack with Emboar, to get around the discard, but a lot of people will not know to do that.
Stage 1 decks (Cincinno, Donphan Prime etc….)- 50/50– It all depends on if you setup first. This is a fast deck, so it is a 50/50 chance that you will setup first. If you can get that early Slowking, you should be good.
Zekrom- 40/60-I haven’t tested this matchup, but this should be a tough matchup for this deck. Since Zekrom is really fast it has a decent chance of out speeding the Lost World Deck.
Stage 2 Decks– 60/40– Even though this category is very broad, Stage 2 decks take at least 3 turns to setup. Hopefully, you should be lost zoning by turn 2. So if you see an Oshawott and a Totodile on the first turn, take a big sigh of relief.

The List

This is just my list of the deck. I only made it a couple days ago, so it is far from perfect. So feel free to experiment with it and make it better.

Pokemon-17

3- Mime Jr.
1- Mr. Mime cl
4- Mew Prime
2- Slowpoke(Rambunctious Party)
2- Slowking CL
2- Gengar Prime
2- Relincanth Cl
1- Spiritiomb Tm- For forcing my opponent to refresh his/her hand.

Trainers- 32

4- Seeker- A sure-fire way to get a Pokemon with “Hurl into Darkness”
4- Professor Juniper- the best hand refresh for a deck that doesn’t evolve a lot
4- Twins- You will never take a prize, so you will be able to use Twins a lot
4- Pokemon Collector- You have so many basics that you can’t afford not to run this card.
2- PONT
1- Flowershop Lady- This card has quietly become a staple in any deck.
3- Revive- an easy way to get Mime Jr. and Mew back without wasting your supporter for the turn. Helpful mid to late game.
3- Dual Ball- a way to get basics without using a supporter
4- Communication- you need this to get an early Slowking
3- Lost World- You can run 2, some might run 4.

Energy-11

Psychic-11-You might wanna add another energy or two, because you could burn some on Relincanth or Slowpoke. But, I only run 11 because Twins makes it easy to get energy when you need it.

Closing Remarks

Well there is the list. Its not the best list but it is a good place to start if you wanna test this deck. You could possibly take away some Dual Balls and a revive or two for another Slowking line or some Lost Removers.

When I tested this deck I realized that it can really work, but I still can’t help but think that this deck is just a turn too slow to work. It will depend on the Metagame, but I think this could be a good deck.

So long and thanks for all the fish!

State Championships Uncategorized

What European Challenge Cup Means to State Tournaments

Pikkdogs February 28, 2011 6 Comments

A big hello to everyone in Omar-nation. This is Pikkdogs here with a report on the upcoming state championships.

So I had my preview of states all done and written, and I was ready to make some final tweaks to my deck, and then………………………….. The Europeans screwed it up.

Darn Euros! They had one tournament and with that turned the Metagame on its side.

In case you haven’t watched PokemonDan’s video on the ECC, the talk of the Benelux region was Italy’s Andrea C. and his Lostgar Lock deck. Its basically just a trainerlock deck but that exchanges 2 Gengar SF for 2 Gengar Primes. Even though he was very lucky in the tournament, he was at a place where he should have won the entire tournament, but misplayed at then end. So he basically should have won the tournament, and turned quite a few heads while he did it. You can bet this deck will migrate to the U.S. and become the biggest Italian import since the Pizza pie.

So what does this mean for State Championships?

Well I’m glad you asked that, because it is the topic of this article. We will examine this effect by analyzing what decks have gotten better because of this news, and what decks have gotten worse.

The Winners

Lostgar Lock– Of course one of the biggest winners of this news is the deck that is sweeping the metagame. This deck will be played a lot, now that Andrea proved that it can win. Andrea did not give us a list that can be easily copied, but everyone basically knows how to build a deck like this. He ran 2 Gengar Primes, 1 Gengar Sf, and 1 Gengar Prime; that seems to be the best play. A 2-2-2 Vileplume line is standard, as well is at least 3 Spiritomb Ar. You will also see some new cards like Mr. Mime Cl and Spiritomb Tm. The reason this deck is so good is because of the Rescue Energy + Broken Time Space Combo. An SP deck will mostly likely have to take 2 hits to knock out either a Vileplume or Gengar. When they do knock it out, it just goes back to the player’s hand, and they can lay it all back down thanks to Broken Time Space. This is an unstoppable combo.

On the downside, a Lostgar Lock player will have to make sure to build the deck so it does not have Split Personality Disorder. Lostgar Lock is a mix of two decks Lostgar and Vilegar. You don’t wanna take 3 prizes and put 3 Pokemon in the Lost Zone, that does you no good. Consistency is big on this deck.

Luxchomp– Luxchomp is a deck that can beat any deck consistently, it just needs to know what deck it will play so that it can tech against it. What Andrea did in Benelux was that he just tipped his hand and the hand of all Lostgarlock players. Now Luxchomp knows what the Lost World threat is, and can tech against it. So what can you put in your SP deck?

To me, there are 4 good techs that you can play to stop Lostgarlock. I assume that you are starting your deck with a basic Luxchomp list with a 1-1 Blaziken Fb line.

One tech is Dialga G. If you get an early lead against Lostgarlock, just rid your hand of trainers and use “Deafen” so that your opponent cannot play Lost World down. It is a simple tech that is useful against a lot of decks, the ability to also shut down Poke-Bodies is amazing. But, if you can’t rid your hand of trainers, Gengar SF is gonna run over you.

Another tech is Weavile G. Weavile G is a Dark Pokemon that has the “Team Attack” attack. For DCC you can do 10 damage plus 10 more damage for everyone Pokemon SP you have in play. That means if you have 4 Pokemon SP on your bench, you will be doing 120 damage to Gengar Prime (thanks to weakness), which leaves you just 1 “Flash Bite” away froma OHKO. Its “Call For Family” attack also is nice because it has a Call Energy like effect, so it is a good starter. If you need to get rid of Gengar Prime fast, Weaville G is probably the easiest way to do it, though Absol G Lv.X can also hit for 120.

Weavile G saw some play at the ECC, another card that did as well was Roserade Gl. Roserade is a card that can be used in conjuction with Luxray Gl Lv. X’s “Bright Look” or Blaziken FB’s “Luring Flame” attack. You would use these attacks to bring either Spritiomb or Vileplume to the active spot. Once they are there, you can use Roserade Gl’s “Poison Bind” attack to do 10 damage, plus a poison, and prevent a retreat next turn. The only way that your opponent would be able to free a Pokemon would be to use Warp Energy. Even if this does not get you a knock-out, it will help you. If the Lostgar player is going for the win with Lost World, you just need to get the prize lead, and then stall till time is called. So Roserade Gl can help you lengthen the game, which is good for you and bad for them.

The fourth and final tech against Lostgar Lock is Staraptor Fb Lv. X. In my opinion the best thing about Lostgar Lock is not Gengar Prime, nor is it Vilegar, nor is it Gengar Sf, but it is the Rescue Energy+ BTS combo. This combo is amazing and makes Lostgar Lock such a great deck. If you knock out a Gengar or Vileplume they just put it back down again and say, “can you do that 5 more times?” Well SP decks cannot do that 5 more times, so lets stop this combo. You can go at this 2 ways. You can get either get rid of the Rescue Energy, with Lost Remover. Or, you can get rid of the Broke Time Space. Because of trainerlock, the best way to do this is to get rid of the stadium card.

The easiest way to get rid of the stadium is with Staraptor FB Lv. X. Staraptor has the “Defog” attack that does 70 damage and discards a stadium for CCC. Unfortunately this attack only does 50 to Gengar Prime, thanks to resistance but the main part of this attack is the discarding of the stadium. Without BTS they will need 3 turns to get their Vileplume or Gengar back, which will buy you enough time do get more prizes. Also, Staraptor’s “Fast Call” Poke-Power will let you get any Stadium from your deck. This lets you setup a Cyrus Chain very quickly, or be able to get a PONT to refresh your hand.

Gyarados– This seems like a weird place to put Gyarados. How will this be good for Gyarados? It is a trainerlock deck, in which the opponent has a chance at Lost Zoning a Magikarp. This doesn’t sound good for Gyarados.

But if you build a decent Gyarados build, you can make a list that has at least a 50% chance of beating any Trainerlock deck. Where Gyarados really improves is the fact that SP is not thinking about it any more. We might see some decks losing their Lucario Gl, or at the very least losing consistency. And, if SP decks are not as consistent as possible Gyarados will be able to swoop in and beat SP decks. With the changing of SP lists, Gyarados now has the chance of winning a lot more tournaments.

The Losers

Vilegar– Vilegar was already losing to SP decks, now SP decks are really teching against them, this can’t be good. The number of traditional Vilegar players will drop because of the fact that Lostgar Lock is very similar. So, I would be surprised if traditional Vilegar does anything at S/T/P Championships.

Uxie Donk– If you build Uxie Donk really well you can easily beat any deck except any kind of Trainerlock or a deck with sustained Powerlock. The ECC did nothing if it didn’t reaffirm that trainerlock will be around for a long time. Unfortunately, Uxie Donk Players will be running into a lot of trainer lock decks.

Rogue Decks– A lot of rogue decks rely on trainers. And Lostgar Lock stops trainers, so Lostgar Lock will stop a lot of rogue decks. Its that simple. Although, there are some rogue decks that don’t rely on a lot of trainers these decks are mostly unaffected. Unfortunately, it seems like the rise of Lostgar Lock means a lot less original decks.

So thats what I think the ECC means for the Metagame. I may be over-reacting to the news a little, but I think Andrea’s good showing is a harbinger for things to come.

Stupid Deck Idea

Stupid Deck Idea: Lost Junior (Mime Jr., Lost World)

Ed February 8, 2011 13 Comments

Alright, so maybe this deck idea isn’t utterly stupid. In fact, I think there is a lot going for it. It does, however, still fall under what I laid out for our “Stupid Deck Idea” article guidelines. I built it on paper (actually on the computer). I obsessed over it for a while. Ultimately, I decided that I won’t be building a physical version of the deck anytime real soon, so instead I’m posting it here for all of you to ponder.

I think it’s the type of deck that can just win any matchup. Unfortunately, it’s also the type of deck that can lose any matchup. It’s got a luck component to it that can end up in either player’s favor. So, take a look at the article/decklists. Maybe you want to build the deck and test it out. Optimizing the lists might just make it competitive. At any rate, I think it would be a fun (and annoying to the opponent) league deck. At least comment and let me know what you think about the idea (or decks like this).

The basic idea here is to exploit the new Mime Jr. from Clash of Legends. He has two features that we want to make use of. First, his FREE attack puts the top card of your opponent’s deck into the lost zone and puts Mime Jr. to sleep. Normally, this would just be disruptive to the opponent, but combined with the new Lost World stadium, this can win games. Second, his PokeBody prevents all damage to Mime Jr. if he’s asleep. Obviously, this can save him from being KO’d.
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Deck Discussion

Cyrus’s Lost World- Absol G and Palkia G.

Pikkdogs February 6, 2011 4 Comments

Hey all members of Omar-Nation, this is Pikkdogs here with a deck analysis. This article is about a lost world deck. Not to be confused about one of my favorite novels,”The Lost World”, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. If you haven’t read it, I recommend it. Its about Dinosaurs, poisoned arrows, and Hot Air Balloons, what could be better than that? But anyway, this article is about the card, not the novel.

Like most people out there, I had long been interested by Lost World, and was thinking of ways to use the card. Most people were thinking of using Gengar Prime, but without Claydol, Gengar decks aren’t as consistent as they should be. Since they are also slower, it is very easy to play around Gengar. So I looked for other ways to play Lost World.

I remembered a match that I played at 2009 Fall Battle Roads against a person from Ohio. He was using a speed version of the Cyrus Engine, and Absol G to place a lot of cards in the lost zone. I ended up winning that game, but I always remembered that unique deck. So when I saw Lost World, I thought it was the right time to copy that guys idea and make a deck out of it.

So thats how I came up with Cyrus’s Lost World. The purpose of this deck is to get 6 Pokemon in the lost zone as fast as possible. This is achieved by using Palkia G and Absol G. Palkia will mostly be around to limit the opponent’s bench and clear room on your own, though it can help to put their opponent in the Lost Zone. Of course, Palkia G has a “Lost Cyclone” Poke-Power that lets each player choose three benched Pokemon, and the rest go to the Lost Zone. Absol G will be the main Pokemon that puts others in the Lost Zone. He has a Poke-Power “Darkness Send”, that lets you send up to the top 3 cards of your opponent’s deck into the lost zone, based on coin flips.
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Card Discussion

Top 5 Impactful Cards of Call of Legends.

Pikkdogs February 1, 2011 12 Comments

Hey all members of Omar-Nation, this is Pikkdogs here with a set review and the top 5 cards of Call of Legends.

If you look on any Pokemon site now a days, you will find no shortage of people bashing this set. A lot of people are calling it the worst set ever, and are just mad at it. It only has a handful of playable cards, and most cards are reprints of so-so cards from the last couple sets. Most players call this set a total blunder for Play Pokemon. The poster child for this so called blunder is Phanpy. Phanpy has a Poke-Body that twice misspells its names. The card just sums up what a lot of people think Play Pokemon did with this set.

But, there are people who think that this set is pretty good, we call these people collectors. These collectors love challenges, and this set features 11 shiny Pokemon, that is what I call a challenge. There is sure to be value in these Shiny Pokemon if you pull any from the pack, a lot of collectors will be happy to find the rare cards of this set.

Besides being a good set for collectors, this set does still have some luster in it. Of course this set has one big giant card, Lost World. This card is what players have been waiting for for months. In addition to Lost World, there are still some good playable cards here, so lets look at some of the best cards of the set.

5. Tangrowth

One of the cards that nobody has talked about is Tangrowth. It may not seem like a great card to look at, and it honestly never seems great, but it is a good combo with Tangrowth Lv.X. Well lets look at the card.

It has 110 HP, a 4 retreat cost, a weakness to fire, and a resistance to water. The HP is decent for a stage 1 and the resistance is good with Gyarados running around, but the retreat cost and weakness are terrible. It has one good attack, its called “Grind”, which does 20 damage times the amount of energy attached to it. Besides being able to use DCE, it works great with its Level X. Besides adding 20 HP, the Level X adds an attack that will let you attach as many grass energy cards from you discard pile as you like to any of your Pokemon. If you were able to discard a lot of Grass Energies, you can then use “Big Growth” to attach energies, and then attack with Grind for a lot of damage. The Level X also adds healing, which is always good for a tank.

This combo is a little slow and isn’t the best, but is worth a look. It will be a good fun deck, but it won’t ever be Tier 1.

4. Mr. Mime

Mr. Mime has 70 HP, a 1 retreat cost, and a psychic weakness. These stats aren’t very good, but they aren’t what we are here for.

We are here for the Poke-Power. “Trick Reveal” forces each player to reveal their hand to one another, and Mr. Mime can use this power each turn, and he does not need to be active. It is all in all a great power, it would be nice to not have to show your hand, but the only thing Mr. Mime will cost you is a bench spot.

The most common combo for this card is Gengar Sf, since you will be able to see if your opponent has enough trainers in his/her hand for a knock-out. It should find a home in any Trainerlock deck right away. This would be a great use for Mr. Mime, and I’m sure you could find other combinations for it.

3. The Reprints

In this category I am grouping a lot of different varied cards. There are a lot of decent cards that got a re-print in this set. Some of the good ones are Smeargle, Slowking, Professor Oaks New Theory, Copycat, Umbreon, Ninetails, Dual Ball, Interviewer’s Question, and the Reverse Holo Energies.

These cards are all playable and the reprint will let you get a lot of copies of these cool cards. Also if a card got new artwork in this set, its usually pretty sweet (except Eevee, I think this Eevee was inbred or something).

2. Lost Remover

Lost Remover is a trainer card that lets you put one special energy card that is attached to one of your opponent’s Pokemon, and stick it in the lost zone.

Right now this is not good enough to be a staple, but I think it soon will. Once the SP engine rotates out I think Special Energies will be more popular, and this card will stop them. Even now you can use it to combat Tyranitar Prime and Steelix Prime. Putting a Special Metal card attached to Steelix in the Lost Zone would be devastating. So its not a great card, but it is a card that I believe will be good soon.

1. Lost World-

This is the grand-daddy of them all, Lost World. This is what makes this set worth it, a game changing card.

It lets anyone win the game, if their opponent has 6 Pokemon in their Lost Zone.

It is format changing because it makes cards like Gengar Prime, Palkia G, Absol G, and others playable. It will probably make at least 1 or 2 first or second tier decks. Now people will be trying to get Pokemon cards in the Lost Zone, when the Lost Zone was once ignored.

It will cause a lot of things to be changed, because each deck and player will have to adjust to fight this new way to win a game. Only time will tell how impactful this will be, but for right now it seems like this card will be extremely impactful.

I don’t get a lot of people who bash this set, it is a decent set that will get you a lot of playable cards. Nobody seems to like this set, but I bet everyone would love to get another Smeargle, RH energy, or PONT. Despite what everyone says, it is a decent set that has some good cards in it. I highly recommend that everyone go to the next pre-release that its in your area. For some reason these pre-releases are very fun to go to. And of course, these events are always great to trade at.

So long and thanks for all the fish.

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