Gengar Prime

Lost World Deck HGSS-On- Mew Prime, Mime Jr. and Gengar Prime.

As you can see I got really creative with the name of this deck. 

Hello all you OHKOers out there.  This is Pikkdogs here with a deck idea for the HGSS-on format. I spent most of last weekend working on some HGSS-on decks.  I tried a lot of good decks, one deck that was unexpectedly good was my lost world deck.

Before we talk about the deck, we have to mention that Battle Roads start this weekend!  This is the time where you can go and prove that the Md-BW format is pretty terrible.  Although most people are not excited about the format, it could be just the time for you to go and steal a Victory Medal.  So go and have fun with your Pokemon friends, and hopefully you can pull down a medal.

How the Deck Works

Anyway, lets go back to the deck.  Like all Lost World decks, this decks only purpose is to get 6 of your opponent’s Pokemon in the Lost Zone.  Unlike the popular Lostgar deck, this deck has no way to grab 6 prizes if needed, but thats not really something you need to do.

The main way you will get Pokemon in the Lost Zone is by using Gengar Prime’s “Hurl Into Darkness” attack.  But you will never have an active Gengar Prime, instead, you will throw Gengar Prime into your Lost Zone and then make Mew Prime use “Hurl”.  Mew Prime can use any attack of any Pokemon in the Lost Zone thanks to his “Lost Link” Poke-Body”.  You put Gengar in the Lost Zone either with Mew Prime or with Relincanth Cl.  You will also put your opponent’s Pokemon in the Lost Zone with Mime Jr. Cl.

Mime Jr. is a very useful card in this deck.  His attack “Sleepy Lost” sends the top card of your opponent’s deck into the Lost Zone.  To make sure you will send a Pokemon to the Lost Zone with this attack, this deck uses Slowking Cl to arrange your opponent’s deck.  His Poke-Power “Second Sight” lets you arrange the top 3 card of either of the decks.  This power can be used to either help you setup, try to give your opponent a bad draw, or to setup “Sleepy Lost.”  When I first made this deck, I thought I would only use Slowking to help with “Sleepy Lost.”  But, I soon found out that if you can get Slowking setup before your opponent sets up, you can delay their setup for a long time.

How Do You Setup?    Mime Jr - CL 47

This deck has an abundant amount of good starting Pokemon.  This deck runs 4 Mew Prime, 2 Relincanth Cl, and 2 Slowpoke (Rambunctious Party).   Either would be decent to start with.  Ideally you would want to start with Mew Prime or Relincanth and Gengar Prime in your hand, and you would be able to get Gengar Prime in the Lost Zone on the first turn.  If  not you should be able to setup with Slowpoke or draw cards with Relincanth.

After you have tried to get Gengar Prime in the Lost Zone, your next job is to setup a Slowking.  Hopefully you started with a Pokemon Collector or some Dual Balls.  After you use these cards  you should have at least 1 Slowpoke, Mew Prime, and Mime Jr.  Eventually try to get multiple copies of each card in your hand, and a Mr. Mime. Next, use a Pokemon Communication to snag a Slowking.

Once you got your Slowking, you need to decide which attacker is the best to use.  First use Mr. Mime’s “Trick Reveal” to see if the opponent has any Pokemon in their hand.  Next use “Second Sight” to see what is at the top of their deck.  If you can take 2 Pokemon with Mew, than do it.  But if you can only take 1 and you have Pokemon both at the top of the deck and in the hand, then you can choose which one you will want to put in the Lost Zone.  Ideally you would want to put the most important one in the Lost Zone, but most of the time any Pokemon will do.

Now that you got your first Pokemon in there just keep on using “Second Sight” and “Sleepy Lost”, as well as Seeker with “Hurl Into Darkness”.  You should know within the first few turns if you can win the game.  If you can put 2 in the Lost Zone before they can take a prize, you should have an easy win.  If they setup as fast as you did, your probably not going to win.  This is why an early Slowking is important.  If you can use Slowking to slow down the opponent for even a turn than you have a better chance at winning.

Matchups

Of course a deck is only as good as its matchups, so lets see if this format will be kind to this deck.

  1. Reshiboar70/30 Reshiboar is probably the best deck in the format, but it has a hard time attacking if you can limit the amount of energy it receives.  Because Reshiram requires a discard, if you can use “Second Sight” to keep the Fishermen and energy out of their hands, you should be faster than them.  Good players will probably try to attack with Emboar, to get around the discard, but a lot of people will not know to do that.
  2. Stage 1 decks (Cincinno, Donphan Prime etc….)- 50/50– It all depends on if you setup first.  This is a fast deck, so it is a 50/50 chance that you will setup first.  If you can get that early Slowking, you should be good.
  3. Zekrom- 40/60-I haven’t tested this matchup, but this should be a tough matchup for this deck.  Since Zekrom is really fast it has a decent chance of out speeding the Lost World Deck.
  4. Stage 2 Decks60/40– Even though this category is very broad, Stage 2 decks take at least 3 turns to setup.  Hopefully, you should be lost zoning by turn 2.  So if you see an Oshawott and a Totodile on the first turn, take a big sigh of relief.

The List

This is just my list of the deck.  I only made it a couple days ago, so it is far from perfect.  So feel free to experiment with it and make it better.

Pokemon-17

  • 3- Mime Jr.
  • 1- Mr. Mime cl
  • 4- Mew Prime
  • 2- Slowpoke(Rambunctious Party) 
  • 2- Slowking CL
  • 2- Gengar Prime
  • 2- Relincanth Cl
  • 1- Spiritiomb Tm- For forcing my opponent to refresh his/her hand.

Trainers- 32

  • 4- Seeker- A sure-fire way to get a Pokemon with “Hurl into Darkness”
  • 4- Professor Juniper- the best hand refresh for a deck that doesn’t evolve a lot
  • 4- Twins- You will never take a prize, so you will be able to use Twins a lot
  • 4- Pokemon Collector- You have so many basics that you can’t afford not to run this card.
  • 2- PONT
  • 1- Flowershop Lady- This card has quietly become a staple in any deck.
  • 3- Revive- an easy way to get Mime Jr. and Mew back without wasting your supporter for the turn. Helpful mid to late game.
  • 3- Dual Ball- a way to get basics without using a supporter
  • 4- Communication- you need this to get an early Slowking
  • 3- Lost World- You can run 2, some might run 4.

Energy-11

Psychic-11-You might wanna add another energy or two, because you could burn some on Relincanth or Slowpoke.  But, I only run 11 because Twins makes it easy to get energy when you need it.

Closing Remarks

Well there is the list.  Its not the best list but it is a good place to start if you wanna test this deck.  You could possibly take away some Dual Balls and a revive or two for another Slowking line or some Lost Removers.

When I tested this deck I realized that it can really work, but I still can’t help but think that this deck is just a turn too slow to work.  It will depend on the Metagame, but I think this could be a good deck.

So long and thanks for all the fish!

The Many Faces of Gengar Prime

Are you guys getting tired of hearing about Gengar Prime?  Well I am getting tired or writing about it.  But I haven’t shared any kind of lists or anything like that, so I thought I would write this one last article.     

I hate to repeat myself, but I probably should explain Lostgar a little.  It is a deck that uses Gengar Prime and Lost World to win the game by getting 6 of your opponent’s Pokemon in the Lost Zone.  This is mostly done by using Gengar Prime’s “Hurl Into Darkness” attack, which lets you put as many Pokemon that your opponent has in his/her hand to his/her Lost Zone up to the amount of energy on Gengar Prime.

Gengar Prime is a card that can be played in many ways.  One way is to play it as a speed deck, another is to play an Anti-Trainerlock Straight Gengar version, a third way to play it is with Cursegar, and a fourth way is to play it with Trainerlock.  Each version of this deck has its own strengths and weaknesses.

Speedlostgar is the fastest version and has the best chance at being a dominant deck.  It works to get a T1 Gengar Prime.  There is no getting around the fact that this build is fast and consistent, but unfortunately it is auto-loss to Trainerlock.  If you want to play Lostgar and still beat Trainerlock, one way is to play a build I call Straightlostgar.  

This version runs a lot of supporters instead of trainers and tries to win a slower game but without sacrificing consistency.  This version could still get a T1 Gengar Prime, and depending on the list could be using Mew Prime to “Hurl Into Darkness” by Turn 2.  Mew Prime is an easy way to use “Hurl Into Darkness” without having to get out the slow Stage 2 Pokemon.  This build can also run a 1-1 Palkia G Lv. X tech.  This tech can put more Pokemon into the Lost Zone thanks to the “Lost Cyclone” Poke-body.   Another way to play this deck is to use last years Cursegar deck as a blueprint.

This build uses the Gengar from Arceus that has the “Curse” Poke-Power.  It’s “Shadow Skip” attack does 60 damage for PPC, and you can switch Gengar with one of your benched Pokemon.  This build relies getting a The last way to play this deck is to merge Lostgar with Trainerlock (the Vilegar version).   If you are able to get a knockout with “Shadow Skip” you can switch Gengar with Gengar Prime and thanks to his “Catastrophe” Poke-Body the Pokemon you just knocked out will go straight to the Lost Zone.  You can do this as well as “Hurl Into Darkness” to get the six Pokemon in the Lost Zone that you need.

In Trainerlock you are already running a Gengar line, so it wouldn’t  be too difficult to add in a Gengar Prime and a Lost World.  This version relies on locking trainers to disrupt the opponent and either attack with Gengar Prime or Gengar SF to defeat the particular deck you are facing.  You can either win on prizes or win by using Lost World.  This build is nice because you will be able to disrupt your opponent significantly.

I mentioned talking about lists.  I haven’t tested a lot  of these lists, but I will give you a skeleton Lostgar list and then give you a list of other cards to fill in the deck for each type of Lostgar build.                                 

Skeleton Build

Pokemon-15

  • 4-Gastly Sf- Nice because of the “Pitch Dark Attack” that can stop speed decks by locking trainers for one turn
  • 3-Haunter TM- free retreat is nice, but you can use other Haunters if you like.
  • 2- Gengar Prime
  • 2-Uxie
  • 1-Spiritomb Tm- This card has a “Spooky Whirlpool” Poke-Power that will make your opponent shuffle his/her hand in to his/her deck and draw 6 cards.  It’s like a Poke-Power version of Imposter Professor Oak, but with 6 cards instead of 7.  This is used because if your opponent is trying to keep the Pokemon in their deck they will most likely draw 1 out of 6.
  • 1-Mr. Mime Cl- For it’s “Expose” Poke-Power.  If your opponent doesn’t have a Pokemon in hand you can attack with “Cursed Droplets instead.

T/S/S-19

  • 1-Palmers Contribution
  • 4-Pokemon Collector
  • 2-Bebe’s Search
  • 3-Twins (you get to grab any 2 cards you want with this card, and since you most likely won’t be taking many prizes you can use this card a lot)
  • 4-Seeker (a surefire way for you to hit a Pokemon with “Hurl Into Darkness.)
  • 3- Professor Oak’s New Theory.
  • 2-Lost World

Energy-7

  • 7- Psychic                                                       Lost World Clash of Legends

Additional Cards

Well that’s 41 cards.  So you still got 19 left to work with.  Here is how each build might use those 19 Spots.  The numbers listed below are in addition to the ones in the list.

SpeedLostGar

  • 2-Gengar Prime
  • 2- Broken Time Space
  • 3-Pokedex Handy 910’s
  • 4-Pokedrawer +
  • 2-Rare Candies
  • 1-Pokemon Communication
  • 1-Luxury Ball

StraightLostgar

  • 2-Gengar Prime
  • 1 Palkia G
  • 1 Palkia G Lv.X
  • 4- Mew Prime
  • 1-Luxury Ball
  • 2-Pokemon Communication
  • 2-Warp Energy                                                                                   
  • 3-Psychic Energies
  • 1- Lost World
  • 2-Rare Candies

CurseLostgar

  • 2- Curse Gengar Ar
  • 1-Twins
  • 2-Pokemon Communication
  • 3-Rare Candies
  • 3-Broken Time Space
  • 4- Psychic Energies
  • 3- Spiritomb Ar
  • 1-Luxury Ball

Trainerlock LostGar

  • 3-Spiritomb Ar
  • 1- Gengar Sf
  • 1-Gengar Prime
  • 2- Unown Q
  • 1- Uxie Lv.X
  • 2-2-2-Vileplume Ud
  • 2- Bebe’s Search
  • 3-Psychic Energies

So there are some basic lists that you can start testing.  A lot of these lists I haven’t tested yet, so don’t just copy this list and head off to States, its just a jumping off point.  Also, depending on the list you choose you will have to adjust the skeleton build a little.  For example, you will proabably want to adjust the skeleton list to fit in 3 BTS if you are running the Speed build.  Or, perhaps you only want to run 1 Prime in the trainerlock build and you want the Level X instead.  You also might be able to drop a Collector or a Seeker here and there, for a card like V.S. Seeker or other cards that will help your build with consistency.

The Top 10 Impactful Cards of HS: Triumphant.

Hello to all members of Omar-Nation.  This is Pikkdogs here bringing you the top 10 cards of the new Triumphant set.  I have ranked them from 10 to 1, but these ranking aren’t that official.  It is really hard to rank cards that aren’t released yet, so the rankings are just a fun thing and aren’t very official.  So, now we got that away, lets get into the list.

#10- Nidoking

Coming in at #10 is Nidoking.  This card has a lot of upside, but may be a little slow for this format.

It has 140 HP, a lightning resistance, and the “Pheromone Stamina” Poke-Body that gives it an extra 20 HP for every Nidoqueen you have in play.   When you combine Nidoking with Nidoqueen RR, you not only get +20 HP but you heal 1 damage counter each turn because of NidoQueen’s “Maternal Comfort” Poke-Body.  If you add an expert belt and have 3 NidoQueens in play, Nidoking would have 220 HP.  It’s attack also isnt bad, for FFCC “Venomous Horn” does 80 damage and poisons the defending Pokemon. The high HP and lightning resistance will make it hard for any LuxChomp deck to knock out a Nidoking.

But as mentioned, it can be a little slow.  It’s attack costs 4 energies (or 3 if one is Double Colorless) which is possible to load up on Nidoking, but it might cause you to sacrifice some prizes.  And  in this quick 30 +3 format, it could be hard to make a comeback within the time limit.  Also, with out Claydol Ge, it will be hard to get out a Nidoking and have a bench full of NidoQueens. It also has a x2 water weakness, which could be problematic with Gyarados SF is as popular as some experts say it will be.  And finally, Dialga G Lv.X can shut off all Pokebodies, making Nidoking a lot less intimidating.

This deck could be good if the deck gets some new draw power, but until then it can be hard to get the deck fully set up.

#9- Victreebel
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