Kyurem EX deck

Pikkdogs Stupid Deck Idea: Spread 2012 (Registeel EX and Kyurem).

A big hello to all you OHKOers out there.  This is Pikkdogs with a Stupid Deck Idea.

Hey Pikkdogs, Do you know what is the difference between your Stupid Deck Ideas and a regular Deck Analysis?

What?

Honesty. 

Good one.  Anyway, we are here to look at a more radical deck in the new format, one that has to do with spread.  You have already met my Extra-Dimensional sidekick Pedro, so Pedro why don’t ya give us a news article and send us to the article with some comedic momentum.

Well I can try. Today in the news is Captain Morgan.  Morgan was a 17th century pirate who the famous rum brand is named for.  Foxnews.com is reporting that archaeologists recently found cannons and wood that they think were from Captain Morgan’s lost fleet.  Henry Morgan was of course a pirate who terrorized the area around what is now the country of Panama, historians say that his ships ran aground near the shores of Panama, and that the find of his lost fleet could be very historically significant to the area.  Do you like the pirates Pikkdogs? 

Well, on one hand I like them because I can say the word “booty” a lot and not get in trouble.  But, on the other hand it is kind of strange to think that children idolize pirates in movies and story books when they are people that destroy things and kill people.

Kind of like the Kardashians.  Some people idolize them and want to be like them, but they are really just a vicious group of girls that love to terrorize American culture. 

Yes, it is kind of a weird paradox.  Maybe it is because people dream of bucking the trend and going against the rules.

And they love large butts. 

Could be it is all about the booty.   Let’s start the article.

The Evolution of this Deck

I had the idea for this spreading deck when I was looking through the cards that were to come out in the Dragons Exalted set.  I have had my eyes on Registeel EX for a while.  I thought it would make a good tanking card, but after the format changed I realized that tanking is taking a back seat for a while.  But, I did notice that the “Triple Laser” attack does work well with decks that like to spread damage around.  I thought that he could work well with Kyurem, they both like to spread damage around and can hit the defending Pokemon if needed.

When I first put this deck together it failed miserably against Mewtwo EX.  I know that not every deck needs to be good about everything, but Mewtwo will be common enough that you need a deck that can at least hold its own against him.  It also wasn’t great against most EXs, once they got Eviolited the game was about over.  It would take me 18 turns to spread enough damage to knock one out, there was no doubt that the deck didn’t work.

But, I did a little more digging and found some cards that could help save the deck.  The first card was Siglyph DRX.  This Pokemon has an Ability that makes it un-hittable by EXs, and it can hit Mewtwo EX for weakness.  This is probably the most versatile Mewtwo EX counter we have.  In testing it has not worked perfectly, sometimes your opponent can Pokemon Catcher around this wall, but it does help your Mewtwo match-up a lot.  The second card that I found was Tool Scrapper.  This is an Item card that lets you discard two of your opponent’s tool cards that they have in play.  This is a great card in this deck because it stops the Eviolite card that screws this deck up so much.  If you are able to spread 30 damage twice with Eviolites in play, you will only do 20 damage, which is really not anything.  But, if you spread 30 twice without Eviolites, you will have 60 damage on those EX Pokemon.  This leaves them with 120 HP left, which leaves them in KO range of Kyurem EX.  Cards like Siglyph and Tool Scrapper may not make this a Tier 1 deck, but they at least save it from being unplayable.

Basics

I already talked about the deck a little bit, but now I will describe it in some more detail.  The goal of this deck is to spread damage around early game and get KOs on multiple Pokemon at once.  You will eventually kill off enough low HP basics that you will only need to directly attack the active a couple times in order to get a win.

The attackers in this deck are Registeel EX, Kyurem, Kyurem EX, Siglyph, and Kyogre EX.  Registeel is your first attacker.  You just need to attach a DCE and another energy and you can attack for 30 and snipe twice for 30.  Kyurem is kind of like Registeel, but it is not quite as fast.  Hopefully you will be able to attach an Exp. Share to Kyurem and get him going when Registeel EX gets knocked out.  Kyurem can then spread for 30 all around, by this time you should have taken around 3 prizes.  Kyogre EX does similar things, except it can snipe twice for 50.  Kyurem EX can come in at the end and finish things off with his 120 damage attack.  Kyurem EX can also disrupt with his attack that discards an energy.  And of course Siglyph is here to act as a wall against EXs and to hit Mewtwo EX for weakness.

Decklist

This is only a version of an early decklist that I have.  It is far from perfect and not something that I would take to a tournament yet, but if this deck works maybe you can make it work.  Hopefully you guys will like the deck and try to test it and protect it.

Pokemon-9

  • 2-Registeel EX
  • 3- Kyurem
  • 1-Kyurem EX
  • 2- Siglyph
  • 1- Kyogre EX

Trainers-37

  • 4- Professor Juniper
  • 3-N
  • 3-Bianca
  • 1-Cheren
  • 2-Random Receiver
  • 4-Pokemon Catcher
  • 1-Super Rod
  • 3-Tool Scrapper
  • 2-Eviolite
  • 3-Exp. Share
  • 3-Switch
  • 3-Ultra Ball
  • 2-Heavy Ball
  • 3-Potion-Nice card to turn a 2HKO into a 3HKO, but can be substituted out for other cards is needed.

Energy-14

  • Water-6
  • Prism-4
  • DCE-4

This is a fairly balanced and bland version of the deck.  If you want to put another Pokemon into the deck, or something like Enhanced Hammer, you can take out the Potions and one supporter.  There are about 5 spots you can work with and do what you want to without sacrificing any of the stuff that the deck has going on now, so that is a good thing with a deck that is in its early stages.

Match-Ups

It is very hard to give match-ups against a format that doesn’t really exist yet, but I can tell you a little about the match-ups I tested and what I can assume about the deck.

Reshiboar– This should be a decent match-up for you.  Hopefully your spreading will do enough damage on Emboars and Pignites that you limit the number of Emboars that are out.  Then you can Pokemon Catcher up Emboar to try to snipe around him.  You will want to be careful against Reshiram, if you spread damage on him you will make It easy for him to “Outrage” for an easy two prizes against Registeel EX.  Kyurem EX will be your friend if you need to knock out Reshiram.  If you can hide Registeel EX and use Siglyph to counter Mewtwo EX  you might be able to squeak out a win.

Zekrom and Eelektrik– This is another match-up that is fairly even.  You need to use Siglyph here to go against Mewtwo EX, if you can’t take the Eviolites away and stop Mewtwo you will lose.  Tool Scrapper and Siglyph need to be the MVPs of this game, if they aren’t you just might lose.  The Eelektriks should be easy targets for your spreading.  If you can stick to a plan against this deck you should be okay.

Hydreigon– Another game where you need to spread early to knock out evolutions.  If you can limit them to one Hyrdreigon you should be able to win.   Make sure to spread early to get around their Siglyphs, and have  a Kyurem EX around to knock them out.  If you can use Potion to turn Darkrai’s 2HKOs into 3HKOs you might be able to win.  It should be a close match, but if you get your list down to how you like it, you might be able to win this more often than not.

Fighting– This match-up is hard to predict.  Fighting decks have fairly high HP, so spreading could take a while.  But, they also don’t do a lot of damage without you getting KOs.  You should be able to use Potion to make it very hard for your opponent to get anything more than a 3HKO on any of your EXs.  This match-up should go to the end, but hopefully the fact that you can take multiple prizes late game should give you a prize lead.

Troll– This match-up is kind of like the last one.  It is a very hard one to predict.  The game will be fairly slow as long as you use your Potions well.  You can just hope that you can get rid of the Eviolites so that you can pick up some KOs on your spreading attacks late game.

Conclusion- Is it any good? 

I don’t really know.  It is still a decent deck, but if it is tournament worthy I do not know.  This will be up to you if you can make the deck better than it is now.  It will also depend on how the format works out too.  I hope that this works out so we can bring the spread back. But, you know that they always say that the “spread is dead”, who knows if it will be resurrected.

Now that we got that done, Pedro, why don’t you end the article with some Olympic news?

Okay, the Olympics are about halfway done.  The Americans had a very productive first week garnering the women’s individual and team gymnastic golds, a bunch of swimming medals, and in the hallowed grounds of Wimbeldon Serena Women’s grabbed the Women’s singles gold.  What was your favorite part of the first week of the Olympics Pikkdogs?

All of the “Money Shots” in Water Polo. 

Yes, quite a funny term.  Got another dirty and hopefully humorous moment?

I like to watch the “Snatches” in Weightlifting.

Do you have one more? 

Nope, but my favorite  volleyball player is Destiny Hooker, that seems to be quite a funny name.

That is quite a strange name, you would have think that her parents would have thought before naming her that. 

You would think.  Good night anybody.

Toledo, Oh Battle Roads Report and Kyurem EX Tank List

A big hello to all you OHKOers out there.  This is Pikkdogs here with a tournament report. This past Saturday I was able to go to my first Battle Roads.  This one was in Toledo, although it is not currently in Michigan,  Toledo is actually the closest venue for me, so I had to be there to defend my turf.  I wasn’t looking forward to this event because Toledo events are usually held in the smallest game room ever, so it gets really hot and really stinky in there.  Although it is not  a fun place to play in, I still had to come and defend my back yard.

I have been trying to find a deck in this format that I like for a long time.  I don’t really like Zekrom, its just too robot like for me.  I would like to play CMT, but I am very poor and can’t afford the deck right now.  And I am not convinced about the other decks in the format, so I went with a rogue deck.

For about a month now I have been thinking about a tanking deck with either Groudon EX or Kyurem EX.  Onehitko writer TAndrewT convinced me to actually make the deck when he wrote an article about two tanking decks featuring both Pokemon.  I made the deck and was pleasantly surprised that it seemed to hold its own fairly well.  It did not really have an autowin, but it didn’t really have an auto-loss either.  It seemed to give me a situation that was winable almost every time, though the situation was also very losable, it just depended on who had the most luck.

This deck idea is very simple, get Kyurem EX out there and have him attack.  When he gets damaged, use trainer cards to heal him.  Cards like Potion, MooMoo Milk, and Life Herb have been known as crap cards in the past couple years, but they actually worked in my testing.  I did try this deck with some of those trainers and then Blissy DX, but the deck was more consistent with a bunch of trainers.

Smeragle is also in this deck to speed things up.  He is actually a vital card in this deck, and he makes this deck fast and consistent enough to work.

Kyurem is a very under appreciated card.  He may not be the EX that hits the hardest, but he has a weakness that is very hard to exploit.  Plus, he can do things like discard Special Energies while still attacking.  The goal of this deck is not to discard energies, but if you can it is always a good thing.  Kyurem can hit for 120 damage, the downside is that he is unable to use the same attack the next turn.  But, this deck does run 4 Switches and Smeargles with Skyarrow Bridge, so doing 120 damage twice is not a huge problem.

Here is the list.  It is not a perfect list, it of course can be imporved.  But, I did play this deck to see if I like it enough to play it for Nationals, and if the deck could stand up to the format.  If you guys have any ideas on improvements, just let me know in the comment section.

Pokemon-7

  • 4-Kyurem EX
  • 3-Smeargle

Trainers-42

  • 3-Potion
  • 4- MooMoo Milk
  • 4-Life Herb
  • 4-Junk Arm
  • 4-Switch
  • 3-Pokemon Catcher
  • 1-Super Rod
  • 2- Skyarrow Bridge
  • 2-Dual Ball
  • 3-Eviolite
  • 4-Professor Oak’s New Theory
  • 4-Professor Juniper
  • 2-N
  • 2-Sage’s Training

 

Energy-11

  • Double Colorless Energy-4
  • Water Energy-7

The Tournament

I wake up at about quarter to 9, which is very early for me, but still a decent night’s sleep.  I make some oatmeal and sit down to watch a rerun of the Graham Norton show, man that gay Irish guy isn’t that bad in the funny department.  After waking up for a while I pack my car up and make the 40 minute drive to Toledo.

I get to the tournament early because I had to re-sleeve my deck, so I did that and turned my list in.  Then I noticed that I had somehow got some kind of dirt on the front side of my shorts, so I walk across the street to the Family Dollar and pick up a cheap pair of shorts.  Then I drive over to Little Caesars to get some lunch, and then head back to the venue to wait for the start of the tourney.

Round 1 vs John and Dark Deck

My first game is against a guy from Michigan named John.  I think I might have played him earlier in the year, but I don’t really know the guy too well.  I started the game with Kyurem EX and I have all the energies needed to get Kyurem going.  I think I might have the donk on the next turn because he started with a lone Zorua, but on his turn he plays a collector and does “Ascension.”  Once John started going with his attackers, he did well.  I flip 1/8 on my first flips with Moomoo Milk and Dual Ball, and lose a Kyurem because of the bad flipping.  But, my luck would soon turn around.  I get another Kyurem EX and start discarding his Special Energy and knocking out Zoroarks whenever I am allowed to use my big attack.  John pulls out all the stops once he loses his 4th Zoroark, and starts to use Darkrai EX to attack.  This time however, luck was with me.  I start doing well on my flips with Moomoo Milk and Life Herb, and use Potion to fill in the gaps.  He ends up doing a lot of damage with Darkrai, but I am able to wipe away the energy.  The game ends one turn before I can take my last prize, when he decks out.

1-0   –  The day starts off well.  I didn’t think I could keep it going, but its always good to get a win right away.

Round 2 vs Mike with Zekrom (eels with Pachi/Shaymin)

Mike is a Pokedad from Cleveland who’s family I met during the Cities season.  They seem like a real nice family, they are a credit to the Pokemon Community.

I start with a Smeargle to his Tynamo.  I got first and bench another Smeargle,  I then use two N’s in a row thanks to Portrait, but I still can’t get a Kyurem.  On his next turn he uses collector to get 2 Tynamos and a Zekrom.  He then passes, and I use another Supporter, but I still can’t find a Kyurem.  I do attach a DCE to Smeargle and use his attack to knockout a Tynamo.  But, on his next turn he gets 3 energies on Mewtwo EX, uses a Pokegear 3.0 to get a Seeker, and then uses it to get the Seeker win,.

1-1  Not mad here.  I knew that my deck did not play a lot of Pokemon at the same time, so it was vulnerable to a Seeker win.  It just sucks that I am play the only guy who still plays Seeker.

Round 3 vs Frank S. with  Zekrom

Frank is a good buddy from Michigan, so it should be fun to play him.

I start double Smeargle, and he starts with  a Tynamo.  I use a Dual Ball, and two Switches to use 4 Supporters on the first turn, but am still on able to find a Kyurem again.  But, I have the chance at the donk, so I attach a DCE to Smeargle and miss both flips on his attack.  So Frank lives for another day.  He gets a lot of Pokemon in play, but runs into an energy drought.  I do end up getting the first knockout on a Tornadus after I finally find a Kyurem.  I then get another KO on something, I don’t know what, but here is where I make my misplay.  I see a Mewtwo EX on the bench with DCE, and instead of attacking it and getting rid of the DCE, I knock something else out.  I do get a 3 prize lead, but Frank loads up Mewtwo EX and is able to OHKO everything I have.  Misplays suck, I don’t know if that would really have made a difference, but it couldn’t have hurt.  ]

 1-2-  Any hope of doing good is just about gone, but I thought I must solider on and keep on playing to see what I can learn about the deck and the format.

Round 4 vs Eric Richard  with Zekrom/Terrakion

Another guy from Michigan, that’s three in a row.  Of course Papa Richard is playing a Terrakion variant, I think he did in every tournament this season.  This game goes weird, as our games normally do.

I start with Smeargle again, and he has a Terrakion.  I do find a Kyurem on the first turn, but I cannot find an energy.  I use a bunch of “Portraits”, but none of those help.  The only things I seemed able to draw were healing trainers.  Those helped delay the inevitable, but I need energy to attack.  It took me several turns, but I was able to get some energies.  The only thing was to keep Kyurem alive, I had to Junk Arm 2 Kyurems.  I later learned that my Super Rod was prized, so I was kinda screwed.

I finally start attacking and I make Eric work with how many attacks he had to do just to get one knock out.  I am able to heal off a lot of damage counters, but I eventually run out of healing trainers after using them as  a crutch for the first 6-7 turns.  Once he knocked out 2 Kyurems it was over because I had no Super Rod.

1-3–  I wonder what would have happened if I didn’t hit an energy drought.  Would have been a good match

Round 5 v.s. Lauren with Mew Lock (kind of)

Round 5 officially went in the books as a no show win for me since my opponent never showed up, but after I saw that my friend Lauren finished her game I asked her for a fun game.

I start with Smeargle and Kyurem and I get a good feel for the game going.  I start setting the pace with some good supporters and some early knockouts on Mews.  I take 4 prizes before she puts the lock on, but the lock eventually does come on.  There was nothing I could do to stop the lock, I just had to wait for her to roll bad.  She eventually knocks out a Kyurem with “Double Freeze” and decides to not use “Victory Star” to take the KO back.  This allows me to get my last prize, and just as pairings are put up, she misses a “Fly” flip, and I end the game with a W.

2-3-  Pretty easy match-up, I just gotta hope that eventually they roll bad, which they usually do.  Thanks for the game Lauren, I really appreciate it.  It made a deck report that would been horrible, to be just very bad.    

Round 6 vs James H. with C.M.T. –T

This was a very pivotal game for my deck.  If I win this game, I think this deck still has hope.  If I lose, it is a crappy deck.  And look who I am playing, my buddy and fellow OHKO writer James.

James and I play this game in a very laid back fashion since we all expected to do a little better.  I again start with a Smeargle and Kyurem, and get a few Supporters the first couple turns to get going.  I am able to get energies on Kyurem and am able to get a couple KOs on Mewtwos, but those things just kept on coming.  I might have had a chance to win, but I was forced to  burn some healing trainers on a Juniper early in the game, and then I didn’t have them when I needed them later.  I should have been able to outlast the Mewtwos, but those healing trainers eluded me and James got the W.

2-4–  The search for a Nationals deck continues as Kyurem EX kind of failed me this day.  It is not a bad deck, I did do well in almost all of my games, but it just didn’t have that one or two cards that can put it over the top. I really need something to put a little kick in the deck.  Maybe you guys have an idea, or maybe it is just a bad deck.  I still need to look for a Nats deck, and that really sucks.

About the Deck

I did not do great with this deck, so it is no longer a front runner to be my nationals deck, but it is still a cool deck.  It is also a deck that would be good for kids or people that are under a budget.  This is a deck that you should be able to build for about 40 bucks, which is almost unheard of in this format.  So I can recommend this to other players and hopefully they can do a better job with it then I did.  I might try  to run this deck with Groudon EX and see if that’s any better.  Though, it is not a great deck, so don’t get the wrong idea about this deck.  It won’t win Nationals, but its still pretty cool.

Well, that’s all I got.  Thanks to the judges and T.O. in Ohio.  And thanks to the Card Shop owner, I especially appreciated him when he took a big stick and hit the bar on the backdoor so we could open the door and get some air circulation in that sardine can.  Thanks to all my opponents, you guys were all professionals.  Have a good night, everybody.