TOSSED Variants Featuring Dialga G, Blaziken FB, Garchomp C, and Shuppet
by Ed ~ October 13th, 2010.“Dialga TOSSED†/ BR #1: Sept. 18, 2010
Pokemon: 17 3 – Uxie – LA 43 1 – Uxie Lv. X – LA 146 2 – Crobat G – PL 47 1 – Shuppet – PL 92 1 – Dunsparce – HS 41 1 – Toxicroak G – DP 41 2 – Garchomp C – SV 60 2 – Garchomp C Lv. X – DP 46 1 – Unown Q – MD 49 1 – Dialga G – PL 7 1 – Dialga G Lv. X – PL 122 1 – Regice – LA 36 |
Trainers: 25 4 – Poke Turn 4 – Poke Drawer+ 4 – Plus Power 2 – Expert Belt 1 – Luxury Ball 3 – Energy Gain 2 – SP Radar 1 – Premier Ball 1 – Power Spray 3 – Warp Point |
Supporters: 10 4 – Cyrus’s Conspiracy 3 – Pokemon Collector 2 – Bebe’s Search 1 – Aaron’s Collection |
Energy: 8 2 – Psychic Energy 4 – Double Colorless 1 – Metal Energy (Basic) 1 – Cyclone Energy |
It turns out that I feel like this “Dialga TOSSED†build was the best running version of the TOSSED decks I’ve played.  I went undefeated in my first 3 matches. The next two were losses, but both could have easily been won if the luck rolled slightly in my favor. You can read the Dialga TOSSED mini report here.
Essentially, the techs here come down to getting around Vileplume and Spiritomb. Regice can screw with your opponent’s Spiritomb, and it can work well in the SP matchup. Dialga G Lv. X shuts off both Spiritomb and Vileplume’s traier lock. Warp Point is essential here, because it helps you bench both Regice and Dialga when they are active (which is necessary to LvX Dialga). Warp Point is also an offensive weapon, because most of your attacks come off the bench. If you don’t want to attack their active, you can Cyclone Energy or Warp Point it away.
“Vanilla TOSSED†/ BR #2: Sept. 19, 2010
Pokemon: 16 3 – Uxie – LA 43 1 – Uxie Lv. X – LA 146 2 – Crobat G – PL 47 1 – Shuppet – PL 92 1 – Dunsparce – HS 41 1 – Toxicroak G – DP 41 2 – Garchomp C – SV 60 2 – Garchomp C Lv. X – DP 46 1 – Ambipom G – RR 56 1 – Unown Q – MD 49 1 – Regice – LA 36 |
Trainers: 29 4 – Poke Turn 4 – Super Scoop Up 4 – Poke Drawer+ 4 – Pokedex 4 – Plus Power 2 – Expert Belt 1 – Luxury Ball 3 – Energy Gain 2 – SP Radar 1 – Premier Ball |
Supporters: 8 4 – Cyrus’s Conspiracy 3 – Pokemon Collector 1 – Aaron’s Collection |
Energy: 7 2 – Psychic Energy 4 – Double Colorless 1 – Cyclone Energy |
This build opts for speed and ease of play over techs against problem matchups. I wanted to try it, because I didn’t match up against any VileTomb in my first BR. Well, the day didn’t go so hot, as you can read in the Vanilla TOSSED report. I was able to get a fast donk in round 1, but that was where luck ended.
Rounds 2 and 3 were very winnable, but neither went my way. Round 2 was lost mostly because I started with Regice active. I had removed the Warp Points, so I had to rely on SSU to bench him. That was a big deckbuilding mistake. You’d be better off just removing the Regice without Warp Point, but I wanted the option against Spiritomb. Round 3 felt like a win, but somehow I let it slip away. Round 4 was Vs. DialgaChomp, and that’s pretty much an autoloss with this build.
Ultimately, I think the “Vanilla†version is best suited for those that want a cheaper deck or one that’s a bit easier to play. There’s not much here that’s hard to acquire, besides the Uxie X, and that can be removed. Consider a Staraptor and Staraptor X in place of it, or maybe just replace it with a Power Spray or Energy Exchanger. Then take it to league and frustrate your friends.
“Hot TOSSED†/ BR #3: Oct. 2, 2010
Pokemon: 18 3 – Uxie – LA 43 1 – Uxie Lv. X – LA 146 2 – Crobat G – PL 47 1 – Shuppet – PL 92 1 – Dunsparce – HS 41 1 – Toxicroak G – DP 41 2 – Garchomp C – SV 60 2 – Garchomp C Lv. X – DP 46 1 – Ambipom G – RR 56 1 – Unown Q – MD 49 2 – Blaziken FB – SV 2 1 – Blaziken FB Lv. X – SV 142 |
Trainers: 23 4 – Poke Turn 4 – Poke Drawer+ 4 – Plus Power 2 – Expert Belt 1 – Luxury Ball 3 – Energy Gain 2 – SP Radar 1 – Premier Ball 2 – Energy Exchanger |
Supporters: 10 4 – Cyrus’s Conspiracy 3 – Pokemon Collector 2 – Bebe’s Search 1 – Aaron’s Collection |
Energy: 9 2 – Psychic Energy 2 – Fire Energy 4 – Double Colorless 1 – Cyclone Energy |
This build is somewhat of a reaction to all the Dialga G floating around. The problem is that 2-1 Blaziken doesn’t give it enough to swing the tides in TOSSED’s favor. As you can see in my Hot TOSSED BR Report, I was able to beat a VileTomb style deck thanks to Luring Flame. I also just ran through a Charizard deck, because he just couldn’t set anything up while I took 1 prize per turn. Other than that, I really didn’t do much. I lost to DialgaChomp, got Donked by Sablelock, and drew poorly against Chenlock.
This “Hot TOSSED†build is pretty solid, but I would probably make a few changes. I might work in a Warp Point or two, and I might remove some Energy Exchanger.
Notice that I haven’t been playing much/any Power Spray in any of these builds. That was more of a style choice. This “Hot†build could probably do with a Spray or two. The “Vanilla†version would probably benefit from it the most, but it runs the least amount of SP. That means you may not have enough SP in play to Spray their threat at the right time. Again, when I played that, I opted for speed, so I cut the Spray.
I should point out that the more you get into a teched build of TOSSED, the more it plays like SP. Hot TOSSED plays more like BlazeChomp with a Shuppet option. There is also a Lux TOSSED build that I did not play in BRs. It plays more like LuxChomp with a Shuppet option. The exception here is the Dialga TOSSED, because it doesn’t play like DialgaChomp. It doesn’t use Dialga to tank, and you would only attack with Dialga in extreme cases. Vanilla TOSSED plays more like a Shuppet deck with sniping/healing and anti-SP measures (Toxicroak, Ambipom, etc.).
So, there you have it. Maybe we’ll get a small writeup about the “Lux TOSSED†deck at some point, but I may not be the best author for that. I never played it much, because I knew that someone else was testing it. It may be the best build available, but it’s also the most like a currently known top tier deck (namely LuxChomp). That makes it a lot less “rogue.â€
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